help with rage

topic posted Wed, May 14, 2008 - 9:03 AM by  Vandal's
tribes.tribe.net/adultadd/...304475f0ea

in the add adult tribe we are talking about rage and how to deal with it.

"i'll get angry about something & can't let go of it. i'll get overly upset about something stupid & after cussing and bitching profusely, it still won't go away. then i'll wake up in the middle of the night, still pissed off & it will affect my whole mood. i'll have bad dreams & it will just go on and on. it's so hard for me to just "let it go". it seems i stay hyperfocused on my anger to the point that it really has a negative affect in my everyday life."
  • Re: help with rage

    Wed, May 14, 2008 - 11:03 AM
    Hi, Vandal. Namaste - I honor the light within you. I had trouble with rage, sadness and other mood problems. I got attuned to Reiki. Attunement is the process of energy transfer or initiation. For me, it was a powerful re-birth, but was gentle and subtle. No visions or anything dramatic during the attunement. But the immediate aftermath proved to me that something had really happened...

    I had years of meditation experience (yoga, Zen, etc) before I got attuned, but I still had problems with sadness, anger, and bouts of irritation. The Reiki attunement astonished me. It seemed to start up something strong, clear, and persisitent in the middle of my head, and also left me feeling refreshed, confident, and full of genuine "heart values," as people call them. Before, my morning meditation had centered me temporarily and put me in a good mood, but I'd often drift away from that center during the day (and then re-establish it in the evening, when I'd meditate again). After my Reiki attunement I've tended to remain centered much, much more of the time.

    And this was interesting... I found that both neighborhood pet animals (like cats and dogs) all liked me better, and people did also. About three times as many people just naturally showed how they liked me! That was an almost magical result of my attunement. I had my first experience ever, a few weeks after my attunement, of a songbird gently perching on my head while I was meditating outside. I really enjoyed that!

    I cannot say how the Reiki attunement will affect other people, and what I've described is just the result in my life. But I did put a little survey or poll here (on the Tribe.net Reiki forum) and two-thirds of the people who responded said that getting attuned to Reiki radically changed their life for the better, and most of the others said that it had a noticeably positive effct on their lives.

    Good luck in putting the rage problem behind you. All the best...

    Tanemon
  • Re: help with rage

    Wed, May 14, 2008 - 11:14 AM
    tHEN FOCUS ON SOMETHING ELSE!

    aNGER IS AND EGO AND IT IS FUELED AND WILL ATTRACT LIKE ENERGY! ASK YOUR DIVEINE INNER MOTHER! (HOLY SPIRIT) TO HELP YOU WITH THIS PROBLEM!

    LOOK AT YOUR ANGER AND UNDERSTAND ITS ROOT THEN YOU WILL BE MORE ABLE TO BE IN CONTROL.

    ALL NEGATIVE FEELINGS COME FROM FEAR!

    tHE MORE YOU FOCUS AND TRY TO RESIST THE MORE IT WILL PERSIST! pRAY FOR AND MEDITATE ON PEACE, bREATH IN PEACE AND BREATH OUT LOVE! EXTEND THIS PRACTICE ONCE MASTERED TO 15 MINS

    BEGIN BY BREATHIN 4X4 PATTERN BREATH IN COUNT OF 4 HOLD FOR 4
    bREATH OUT " " 4 HOLD ON EMPTY FOR 4

    BY THE TIME YOU HAVE PRACTICED THIS AND BY THE TIME YOU HAVE IT IN A NICE FLOW AND BALANCED BREATH YOU WILL HAVE CALMED YOUR THOUGHTS

    THOUGHTS FOLLOW THE BREATH SLOW IT RIGHT DOWN AND THOUGHTS BECOME TRANSPARENT AND MORE PEACEFUL!!!!!
    • Re: help with rage

      Wed, May 14, 2008 - 3:08 PM
      I think anger comes from not letting yourself feel. So let yourself feel the anger in your body, what it feels like to your body, not trying to get away from it by acting it out on the outside world or others. Once your body has let you know how angry it is, and you've listened by feeling it, the anger will probably change to a different emotion, and you can let yourself feel that one too. It might take a while, and you might feel a lot of built up emotions all over the place. Its very satisfying all along the way tho, when you know you've listened by feeling, what your body has to say.
  • Re: help with rage

    Wed, May 14, 2008 - 3:29 PM
    Hi Vandal. Thanks for your post as I often feel the rage as well. Have you ever tried cutting out all stimulants for a week or so? Our bodies are already over-stimulated but ingesting too much of any form of sugar, or coffee, tobacco, and even garlic and onions can be hard on the nerves and enhance irritability. Just a thought as I know that I feel less anger when I cut out certain things. You may also want to get out of the city as much as possible; if you are in one.
    • Re: help with rage

      Thu, May 15, 2008 - 8:49 AM
      coffee is the only thing I have left to cut out. my met intake has slowed up also.

      When the anger does hit I'll try the breathing thing. I know my I guess my mind would like to express to the outside world how it feels but I dont think I know how to let my body know Im mad.
      • Re: help with rage

        Thu, May 15, 2008 - 9:08 PM
        Don't tell your body anything, you listen to your body, it tells you. by feeling what it feels like, in different parts of your body. Physically, not mentally.
        • Re: help with rage

          Fri, May 16, 2008 - 10:14 AM
          just a quick thing for you... rage is differnt than anger... rage is connected to a more deeper soul violation on some level....usally going back to.. it is why it often hides and then suddenly... you will probably know exactly what i am saying....

          there are many ways to deal with it and rid it out of your life... many wholistic eays...... but the key is being awre it is... and differnt, from the core...

          much light and beaufy speed in your journey.... rember, you were born of the light... and are of the light.....
          • Re: help with rage

            Fri, May 16, 2008 - 11:16 AM
            me? I know feelings can hide, that's why it's good to go into every part of your body to see what's hiding there. When I started doing this a few years ago I had a terrible time trying to feel my heart. There were all kinds of emotions hidden in there that were too overwhelming for me to feel all at once. I had to do it a little at a time as I could handle it, and start with other parts of my body first. And I think rage is an expression from trying to get away from feeling those things that are there.
            • Re: help with rage

              Mon, May 19, 2008 - 2:54 PM
              you said it well..... in the heart.... or core.... it is that that is so connected to the central part of spirit.... as that is what the hurts and viloations are about.... if i may, rage is both a getting away of those feelings, and actual feeling it there and you are feeling, it, just trying to escape from it.... as it too.... that's how it eropts into such internsity at sometime the smallest thing.... what is there..... becasue of the origin is core, the emotion is so... and the build up then invokes your whole physiology.... that's why after a rage, the person has calm.... which sadly, reinforces ...... so you are near spot on....D'Nah.....
    • Re: help with rage

      Thu, May 22, 2008 - 2:21 AM
      I agree cut out the Starbucks or whatever your caffiene stimulant is, really I have heard that onions are hard on you but garlic? I think too much but I agree we are out of control on stimulation and then we lack focus and what would you get but rage. What you put into your body , you do recieve back.... full circle.
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    Re: help with rage

    Thu, May 15, 2008 - 6:41 PM
    Something good about this issue is that it demonstrates a really good grip!yes?
    Well,ya might ask your self if it's,(the anger)......worth....... what you have on your plate.
    Then move your self aside,and move forward.

    Some of the breathing practices mentioned i've used to establish a zone,then grow it to encompass
    my daily activities.Best wishes,....rik.
  • Re: help with rage

    Fri, May 16, 2008 - 3:32 PM
    from the initial discription, sounds like there might also be some OCD going on...
    rage is one thing, obsession quite another...
    • Re: help with rage

      Fri, May 16, 2008 - 7:47 PM
      thanks for the honsty in your question & the helpful replies from all...

      i can rage too & when i do i remind myself of my dear dad (he was raised by an alcoholic & though he won't touch a drop, he'd do this "dry drunk" thing when we were kids & the rage would just explode all over us & it sucked!!)

      as i'm going to be helping others understand their own emotions, i have become pretty serious about looking at my own.
      rage & anger are often seen as some of the more *acceptable* emotions in our culture, violent as it is, and it's nice to hear some good solutions. i like breathing thru it too & reminding myself as i'm doing it that i can make a different choice- so it isn't that i'm telling myself not to feel it (that'd be pointless; we feel what we feel!) but i can choose how i direct it, who it's directed at and how can i resolve it.

      when it works (and sometimes i forget & let the anger take control instead of vice versa), i feel empowered by making a smarter choice.
      when i don't i end up feeling bad about myself & it can spiral if i am at a weak or negative place. i much prefer feeling powerful. good luck to us all! may the world grow more peaceful because we are in it...
  • Re: help with rage

    Mon, May 19, 2008 - 6:42 PM
    you might try this exercise:

    Feel the feeling that you want to release, but don't name it, just feel it.

    Rub your third eye area counter-clockwise to yourself (to the left)
    Acknowledge the feeling, greet it, say hello to it.
    Say: "It's good for me to let you go", "It's good for others that I let you go," "It's safe for me to let you go."
    Repeat "Release, release, release," until you feel like it is complete, then give it an enthusiastic "RELEASE!"

    And that's it... but do not do while driving, as you never know how deep rooted the feelings are and you may have to sit and process it for a while. If you feel another emotion bubble up afterwards, release that as well.

    many blessings,
    heart to heart,
    Dawna
  • Re: help with rage

    Mon, May 19, 2008 - 7:49 PM
    SWEETHEART~ I know it's simplistic: JUST.BREATH!!!!!!!!!!!
    ~helps body to relax to help you focus, calms you spirit IE: anxiety
    HELPS ALSO to remind you live & RELAX!!!!!
    peace sista ;)*
    • Re: help with rage

      Tue, May 27, 2008 - 9:06 PM
      jus t learned in yoga today that inverted poses (like standing on your head or just up against a wall, body in an L-shape, legs in the air against the wall...there are lots) these poses are thought to help with mood disorders. can't hurt to try! i seemed to feel very happy afterwards, but i tend to anyway after yoga, so who knows?
      • Re: help with rage

        Wed, May 28, 2008 - 10:04 AM
        .... as we know emotions are psycho-physicological.... all connected... We tend to gt stuck in them in our head,,,,thoughts,, and chest.... With our thoghts and emoitons we tend to constrict in.... Energy flowing down... but energy wanting release.... then we hold chest in.... and the bukd up of the bofy's chemicals in rage.... SImiar to th build up of chemicals in the fight or flight response... Anything that opens those up... ie standing on head. movingout of head into the body and into a flow of oxygen..

        Precisely why deep excerside.... breathing from core...... also, things like ful body dance..... West Adfrican dnce, syle that come to mind... that opens the body more fully.... ... then, if it is soemthing,like yaog, that connectes to the beautyf of the core......
  • Re: help with rage

    Wed, May 28, 2008 - 10:58 AM
    I would say there are a couple of steps involved before you can let it go. Letting go of anger or another powerful emotion can sometimes be a way of avoiding it or not wanting to feel something deeper. My practice involves first accepting the anger, if it is present then it is here so by accepting it I drop my resistance to what is. The resistance to it or fighting it is often what makes it persist and actually makes it stronger. If you accept it and give up any struggle then you have the opportunity to use it in a way that is healing. You can then sit with the anger and turn your full attention into it, feel it deeply, just the raw feeling of it not all the thoughts and the mind story that goes along with it. If you go into it deeply this way you may find that there are deeper feelings beneath it that are needing to be felt and expressed, anger is often a mask for something deeper and more vulnerable. When you are feeling an emotion it is also very healing to remember that it is not permanent just a passing state of mind and also that you are not that state of mind, this helps you to not identify with the state of mind which creates some space to let go........
  • Re: help with rage

    Wed, May 28, 2008 - 1:36 PM
    here is a taoist trick i use which works very well for realigning anger energy...
    clasp your hands in front of your heart area, but turn the hands upside down in front of you then clasp... then simply bring the hands down the center line of your body, stopping when your elbows are straight... breath out while doing this motion...
    works well... instant calming effect...
    for severe bouts, do it a few times until you can really focus on bringing the heat of the anger down

    a good follow up for that is to imagine the energy running the circle of energy circuits..
    imagining the energy drawn in through your root chakra up your backto the crown chakra and then cycling the higher energy you picked up in the top chakras down the front of you through the other chakras, and keep cycling on the breath... in for up and out for down... this will help to balance the energy overall and lends a charged and energetic feeling to the peace and calm...
  • Re: help with rage

    Wed, May 28, 2008 - 3:32 PM
    It's okay to get angry, it's what you do with that energy that counts.

    Honor your inner child - that part of each of us that is fun-loving, playful, young-at-heart, that part of you that feels like you are being hurt or wants attention. Not having our needs met can make us really angry, and sometimes honoring THAT is key. Honor WHY you feel this way. Maybe getting upset over something "stupid" or "meaningless" is a cover for something deeper we're ignoring - but I'll bet that more often than not it is what it is, and it's not as "stupid" or "meaningless" as we'd like to believe it is!

    I was recently assigned homework by my shaman to do a ritual to purge a lot of anger I had around a particular situation in my life - long story short, I got to go down to the beach, dig a hole, and scream my guts out into the hole! Then cover it and thank mama earth for taking it from me. It wasn't a fix-all solution, but it REALLY HELPED!

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