Tribe.net. Local Connections Claude http://chiflow.tribe.net/thread/2cf5f613-e520-49d3-8a8c-a1b2ddf844c2#6834567c-6d59-4296-92ff-1ea6ad4d2b63 2008-02-27T17:13:22Z 2008-02-27T17:13:22Z

interesting. it kind of seems to me as if it's pointing our attention to something in this very moment, even if the pain comes from something in the past. so yes, i think fighting it, ignoring it, denying it all cause the pain to stay in us, even if we've pushed it down to a deep place and don't feel it at times. when we experience pain, it always relates to where we are now. it seems more loving and healing that actually yelling ... if we are open to that perspective anyway. when pain arises in me, it's a calling, pointing my attention to this moment as the place where i can transform things by opening the pain up gently and lovingly, examining what's inside of it, what's there to learn and take with me, and then releasing the emotions to the universe, back into the pure potential from where they came. it has been quite a learning process to figure out how to use pain as something to move through rather than to suffer through. but i'm starting to see that's the idea behind us feeling it in the first place -- to give us an opportunity to heal it.

Claude 2008-02-27T17:13:22Z $item.owner.firstName http://chiflow.tribe.net/thread/2cf5f613-e520-49d3-8a8c-a1b2ddf844c2#26c3de62-aa0d-4c01-bb6c-85ab987155f3 2008-02-27T16:54:52Z 2008-02-27T16:54:52Z

O_o

$item.owner.firstName 2008-02-27T16:54:52Z $item.owner.firstName http://chiflow.tribe.net/thread/2cf5f613-e520-49d3-8a8c-a1b2ddf844c2#f39baac5-269b-4506-b257-a94331eb5710 2008-02-27T16:54:23Z 2008-02-27T16:54:23Z

Wouldn't we say then, that, "pain" is the body yelling at us when we didn't listen (or were unable to hear) before?

$item.owner.firstName 2008-02-27T16:54:23Z mel!nda http://chiflow.tribe.net/thread/2cf5f613-e520-49d3-8a8c-a1b2ddf844c2#1452360c-4f64-48c8-9238-80bfe1f2c983 2008-02-27T05:36:41Z 2008-02-27T05:36:41Z

next time you're sitting next to that green thing... light up & breathe deep. works for me! ;)

mel!nda 2008-02-27T05:36:41Z :D'Nah http://chiflow.tribe.net/thread/2cf5f613-e520-49d3-8a8c-a1b2ddf844c2#87adc152-fac9-47e4-bbee-5a1b5fbd293f 2008-02-26T22:42:38Z 2008-02-26T22:42:38Z

I can't feel pleasure without feeling the pain of knowing I may loose it. I can't feel pain without feeling the pleasure of knowing I was lucky to have something to loose

:D'Nah 2008-02-26T22:42:38Z Claude http://chiflow.tribe.net/thread/2cf5f613-e520-49d3-8a8c-a1b2ddf844c2#774bc8e2-b820-4af5-9b4e-9767b33e360a 2008-02-26T17:52:27Z 2008-02-26T17:52:27Z

so true, pain is very real. and it's self-created, and it also has reasons for being there that ultimately serve our highest good -- it points the way to lessons and gives us opportunities to examine the things causing the pain, so we can reprocess, let go and move beyond it into pain-free space. some days lately i feel like i'm going to a process of digestion - going into the pain and breaking it apart and purging it out. very difficult work. it feels just how joe described. it also does feel like a completion, not a repeating cycle. it's just ongoing as i am doing it with every aspect of myself. i guess this is the nature of awakening for some of us. i know i am expanding. everything is changing. it hurts. and it's good. nature does help immensely. sitting next to green things and just feeling them breathing on me helps alot. and sitting near running water. sea salt baths with a few drops of lavender oil. sending pink light to my chakras through my fingertips, breathing and resting in the heart space, connecting with guidance, and just going with the flow... namaste, ~claude.

Claude 2008-02-26T17:52:27Z Beach http://chiflow.tribe.net/thread/2cf5f613-e520-49d3-8a8c-a1b2ddf844c2#f4ab33e6-c891-4346-a58b-adbc6afcdc5b 2008-02-26T16:39:57Z 2008-02-26T16:39:57Z

The name the medical profession gave to my pain was “Chronic Pain Syndrome” Not just mental or in your mind, very real and scientific measurable. Incorporating both standard and holistic treatments have helped me live with chronic pains ups and downs, between surgeries and healings. Getting out into nature, going to the lake, is one of my favorite forms of therapy along with weekly and monthly drum circles, lend a lot of energy and fills so many needs. Hugs help. X's, Beach

Beach 2008-02-26T16:39:57Z $item.owner.firstName http://chiflow.tribe.net/thread/2cf5f613-e520-49d3-8a8c-a1b2ddf844c2#c86d8b01-b4c6-45e7-aa22-03891b8d0294 2008-02-26T15:52:30Z 2008-02-26T15:52:29Z

it must be the intensity of it...

$item.owner.firstName 2008-02-26T15:52:29Z Cathy http://chiflow.tribe.net/thread/2cf5f613-e520-49d3-8a8c-a1b2ddf844c2#257c1b26-cb2e-4d00-9fa1-6a7945cb0b43 2008-02-26T08:55:24Z 2008-02-26T08:55:24Z

Interesting perspective. :-) Pain is addictive, btw. I know. I'm a recovering pain addict.

Cathy 2008-02-26T08:55:24Z Claude http://chiflow.tribe.net/thread/2cf5f613-e520-49d3-8a8c-a1b2ddf844c2#487bf616-8036-4401-88cd-7f4d61dc1e80 2008-02-26T02:05:22Z 2008-02-26T02:05:22Z

word to that! i'm in the same boat, joe. peace.

Claude 2008-02-26T02:05:22Z joe http://chiflow.tribe.net/thread/2cf5f613-e520-49d3-8a8c-a1b2ddf844c2#7d5eaf3c-c419-424c-8cf1-b39bbb003f88 2008-02-26T00:43:02Z 2008-02-26T00:43:02Z

when it hurts and i blame myself i now remember that this is me the same one who cried when i left my mother's womb and cried release me light i didn't want to die then either i would soon realize that i want my mom and that i want to get laid and a lot of other stuff too when i don't get it i get tired i get tired of getting it too. fuck. but fortunately i don't scream anymore i just take a fucking nap.

joe 2008-02-26T00:43:02Z